I just noticed that for some reason the main feed for this episode went out several days too early, so this isn't technically "early access." But you guys are still the only ones who can comment, so comment away!
Very interesting podcast. I will check out their podcast. At 51:00, Nina laments how, in human society, males dominate while females submit. She does admit that it's based on primate evolution. I've decided to lament from the other side so here goes: I spent my first 40 years trying to NOT dominate females. I was raised as a feminist male so it came naturally. I was aiming at a perfect balance - in other words, no one dominates. In every instance, the females lost respect and sexual attraction to me. Also, they would break my perfect balance by dominating me. After realizing this, it was extremely difficult to, at times, use my masculine force (not physical) when being disrespected. The change in attraction and respect was immediately noticeable. She was deep-down pleased (I, on the other hand, needed antacids). In a way, the females are training the males to dominate them. Surely with sexual reward. Many times in my youth, men would tell me to "she'll never sleep with you because you're being too nice", "if you want that girl, do not compliment her". These were men who WERE getting the girls. I didn't want to believe it and that's why it took me so long to give up on my dream of "no dominance". I'm still uncomfortable with it but consider that the world just isn't fair and I'm not going to live the remainder of my life being told "good boy" while being unrewarded.
I know what you’re describing. But do you think there is a healthier balance between these two stratégies that can be achieved? Often times the “nice guy” can just become passive aggressive and manipulate bc of repression. And sometimes the dominant man can become too aggressive, cruel, and even violent. I think of my partner as the most embodiment of this balance, who is the kindest person I’ve ever known, but not weak. He has a wisdom to him that I respect a lot.
Yes, I think you're right. For me, being in any dominant position is new to me and I don't see myself becoming abusive. I also agree that some men are "nice" in an unhealthy, passive aggressive way although I don't think I was. Sounds like you met a great man for yourself. Cheers!
No I wasn’t suggested you were toxic, just that toxicity can appear in different expressions. And that I imagine a positive male dominance to embody a caring father figure or a wise leader type and wish men would be encouraged to embody this. Thank you for sharing your story :)
I just noticed that for some reason the main feed for this episode went out several days too early, so this isn't technically "early access." But you guys are still the only ones who can comment, so comment away!
Very interesting podcast. I will check out their podcast. At 51:00, Nina laments how, in human society, males dominate while females submit. She does admit that it's based on primate evolution. I've decided to lament from the other side so here goes: I spent my first 40 years trying to NOT dominate females. I was raised as a feminist male so it came naturally. I was aiming at a perfect balance - in other words, no one dominates. In every instance, the females lost respect and sexual attraction to me. Also, they would break my perfect balance by dominating me. After realizing this, it was extremely difficult to, at times, use my masculine force (not physical) when being disrespected. The change in attraction and respect was immediately noticeable. She was deep-down pleased (I, on the other hand, needed antacids). In a way, the females are training the males to dominate them. Surely with sexual reward. Many times in my youth, men would tell me to "she'll never sleep with you because you're being too nice", "if you want that girl, do not compliment her". These were men who WERE getting the girls. I didn't want to believe it and that's why it took me so long to give up on my dream of "no dominance". I'm still uncomfortable with it but consider that the world just isn't fair and I'm not going to live the remainder of my life being told "good boy" while being unrewarded.
I know what you’re describing. But do you think there is a healthier balance between these two stratégies that can be achieved? Often times the “nice guy” can just become passive aggressive and manipulate bc of repression. And sometimes the dominant man can become too aggressive, cruel, and even violent. I think of my partner as the most embodiment of this balance, who is the kindest person I’ve ever known, but not weak. He has a wisdom to him that I respect a lot.
Yes, I think you're right. For me, being in any dominant position is new to me and I don't see myself becoming abusive. I also agree that some men are "nice" in an unhealthy, passive aggressive way although I don't think I was. Sounds like you met a great man for yourself. Cheers!
No I wasn’t suggested you were toxic, just that toxicity can appear in different expressions. And that I imagine a positive male dominance to embody a caring father figure or a wise leader type and wish men would be encouraged to embody this. Thank you for sharing your story :)
Love heterdorx :) I really admire Corinna for her articulation - and her silliness with Nina is refreshing on such a heavy and complex topic
Fantastic interview. I have been interested in Corinna and Corinna’s perspective ever since a podcast a few years ago.
So glad to hear Nina and Corinna here, Heterodorx is one of my favorite podcasts.
Always happy to hear from the Dorx! This was a great interview.